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North Portland MAX attack renews fear, safety worries
Teens' assault of a Vancouver woman raises concerns of more trouble to come this summer Friday, June 13, 2008DYLAN RIVERA The Oregonian Staff
An assault by five teenagers on a North Portland MAX train this week revived worries about mass transit safety since several high-profile incidents last winter.

Teenage boys and girls punched, used racial epithets and stole the purse of a 28-year-old Vancouver woman who was taking her first-ever MAX ride early Monday evening. The woman, who is white, had just had a conversation with the teens, who are African American and were harassing another woman, according to Portland police.

"It was completely traumatizing and absolutely horrifying for me," said the Vancouver woman, who did not want to be identified for fear of retaliation. "It seemed like forever."

The attack renewed calls for more security on the region's light-rail system. And it raised warnings that the close of the school year this week could be the beginning of a summer of criminal activity by some teenagers.

News of the woman's assault on the MAX Yellow Line, on North Interstate Avenue, triggered quick association with a November attack at a Gresham MAX stop that sparked regionwide outrage. A 16-year-old boy on Thursday was sentenced to 91/2 years in prison for that attack, in which he used a baseball bat to bludgeon a man, then 71.

Weeks after the beating, a 19-year-old man was stabbed in the chest at the Rockwood Transit Center, and on Christmas Eve a woman was groped at a MAX stop in Gresham.

The timing couldn't be worse. Motorists in Portland and nationwide are turning to mass transit in record numbers -- May ridership was up more than 4 percent -- to avoid high gas prices. And with two new rail services under construction -- and extensions to Vancouver and Milwaukie in the planning stages -- fear of crime threatens to stymie rail expansion.

Sam Schwarz, vice president of the Amalgamated Transit Union chapter that represents TriMet drivers, said the agency needs to hire more fare inspectors and supervisors who enforce rules of conduct on trains and buses.

"By enforcing the law and the TriMet codes, they would probably reduce the incidents," Schwarz said. "The drivers and the transit workers don't feel 100 percent safe."

TriMet employees usually suffer more harassment from teens during summer, Schwarz said.

Yet it is the public's perception of risk -- and TriMet's manner of dealing with the incidents -- that was brought to the fore by this week's attack on the Vancouver woman.

Mary Fetsch, a TriMet spokeswoman, said the agency responded by beefing up patrols by transit police, fare inspectors and supervisors in the area.

"Unfortunately, we will never be able to prevent all incidents," Fetsch said. "We move over 330,000 people a day on our entire transit system. So what we watch for is, what's happening? Do we need to put additional security personnel and presence at a certain location?"

The November beating in Gresham had sparked cries for greater police presence throughout the MAX system. The agency has grown its transit police force from 28 officers to 41, and plans to hire two more by July 1. It added two transit police precincts, contract security guards, closed-circuit TV cameras and improved lighting and sight lines at MAX platforms. It also changed its policies to allow 50 uniformed supervisors who ride MAX trains to check for fares.

TriMet has also contracted with rider advocates, former gang members who work with youth to prevent gang activity on the MAX system.

Police said they have arrested four youths ages 14 to 16 suspected in the Monday assault. A fifth teenager is still at large, and officials released security camera video of the incident in hopes that the public can help identify the thin, 5-foot-6 suspect wearing light-colored clothing and going by the name Adrian.

Police said the teens initially called the Vancouver woman racially derogatory names. Then, as the train approached a station at North Interstate Avenue and North Prescott Street, they started punching her, police said.

The woman said a boy stole her purse and ran from the train after it stopped. A mix of boys and girls repeatedly punched her, and some girls hit her with purses. She said she also was hit with a can of beer.

She said the attack escalated when the group turned on her while harassing another, older woman, who had asked the teens to tone down their act. There was no transit security on the train, she said.

"I did not intervene," the Vancouver woman said, adding that she had tried to ignore them. "They got in my face.

"Finally, I just said, 'I don't care what color you are, if I want you out of my face, I'd tell you to get out of my face.' "

That's when the teens got physical. She said she tried to fight back but was punched and stepped on.

"Then they took my purse, and then they ran out" of the train, she said. "And then I was standing at the door, on the phone with 9-1-1 because nobody would call."

The four teens are accused of robbery, assault and intimidation. The intimidation count stems from the alleged racial comments, said Sgt. Brian Schmautz, a police spokesman.

Fetsch, the TriMet spokeswoman, said the train operator alerted transit dispatchers that there was a fight on board the train and to call police.

Aimee Green, Wade Nkrumah and Joseph Rose of The Oregonian staff contributed to this report. Dylan Rivera: 503-221-8532; [link widoczny dla zalogowanych]
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Shooting victims had never been in trouble with law
Updated: Fri Jun. 13 2008 6:35:04 PM

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Police have identified two young men who were shot to death just west of Toronto's entertainment district early Friday morning.

Dylan Ellis and Oliver Martin, both 25-year-old downtown residents, were shot while sitting in a Range Rover SUV near Richmond and Niagara Streets shortly after midnight.

The pair had been at a friend's house watching an NBA playoff game before they were attacked, after they had gotten into their vehicle, police said. The men were taken to hospital, where they were pronounced dead.

A third passenger, Ellis' girlfriend, was sitting in the back of vehicle at the time of the shooting, and escaped unharmed. She is co-operating with investigators.

Police said a man was seen fleeing the scene on a bicycle.

Local residents, who said their neighbourhood is normally quiet, were startled to hear several gunshots ring out. Some said it sounded like fireworks.

Police said the victims were targeted, but a motive is not yet clear. Detectives believe it may have been an attempted carjacking.

Det. Sgt. Gary Giroux said the victims have never been in trouble with the law.

Ellis graduated from a college in Quebec and was pursuing a career in photography, while Martin was a university graduate and worked in the financial district.


"Both young men were greatly loved by their families," Giroux said at a press conference on Friday morning.

"They had a great deal of support, and as you can imagine, both families are devastated by what's happened."

Friends of the victims who came to the crime scene on Friday were still in disbelief.

"They were the nicest people you ever met in your life," said one young man.

"I can't even speak, I can't even tell you how I feel," said another, choking back tears.


There are a number of surveillance cameras in the area where the shooting occurred, and investigators are looking at the footage for clues.

The two men are Toronto's 24th and 25th homicide victims this year. Thirteen of the 25 homicide victims in 2008 were shot to death.

Police are appealing to anyone with information related to the shooting to come forward.

"We believe there were people who were in the area and may have witnessed this," Const. Wendy Drummond told CTV.ca.

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I wouldn't bring up the race of the suspect right away, but every single shooting murder this year has been committed by a black. 100% of them.
Sorry! You can't ignore that number.
They are partially evolved apes. Should be in the zoo.

Black man seen fleeing the crime scene. Wow, Big surprise there! Every gun crime this year has been comitted by neggros. Doesn't anyone realize the problem is with neggroids?
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At least it will make it easy for the police to track down the criminals when they segregate themselves with the new school they are building in toronto
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...i do agree with you at some level...innocent blacks do not deserve the label, even if blacks disproportionately commit crime. i don't think blacks are inherently more likely to be evil either...they are just different than non-blacks...it's it's all evolutionary. the problem i have is assuming blacks should do as well as other races in everything. I think average genetic IQs are different...there are some innately smart blacks...but a lot less of them than other races.
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I said there are only 2% of African what ever, living in Canada and out of that small number they are making a name for themselves and not a good one. I never said they all are criminals but enough are obviously. The Asians and Arabic communities are doing even better job of crime too, but there are way more of them. Yes white people too but thats expected as that's the majority of the population. Native Indians per capita rank highest among all at present.
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So what a couple of junkies are dead. Two less the tax payers have to support to put them through recovery which never works anyway. And as for labelling blacks, with drugs guns, and shootings, you cannot do that. But I find it awfully strange how the majority of violent crimes are comtted by unruly people with no respect for law and humanity and they happen to be black.
Alot of white folks are like that too, but it seems that most of the serious ones we hear about involve blacks. Sad.
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First of all, there are too many damn immigrants being allowed in! Secondly, the death penalty should be reinstated due to the high number of shootings. Lastly, Stop the damn immigrants and let's start taking care of our own!!

Typical lazy black person trying to take something that isn't theirs because they're too lazy to actually work for it! Real men don't use guns??? Must have small 'you know whats'. Isn't it about "stepping up and being men"...not "running like thugs". There is a word I would like to use...but can't (nice freedom)....hell to them all! Some day they will all get theirs!

it's not a matter of whites committing crimes...it's a matter of disproportion. the following is a fact - this year 9 non-blacks have been killed by random blacks...NO BLACKS HAVE BEEN KILLED BY NON-BLACKS IN THE GTA IN 5 YEARS - AT LEAST!!!
That is not to mention the countless times white/asian/indian women get harrassed by black men (all out of proportion), the times our cars get stolen, homes robbed, children beaten up. Not all blacks are criminal, but % wise, alot are.

OK CERL, let me just assume ur stats are right, so what's the reason for you to bash all black people because some black people causee crime. i came here to canada and have not committed any crime. i'm hard working and so are many blacks living in canada. do you think its fair to get all this BS about black people causing crime as if there are no whites, or other groups causing it?i know they have been so many serious crimes caused by whites so can we blacks complain about whites causing crime?

When Immigrants are given freedom in such a wonderful country its no surprise that gun fights and shooting occur in low income areas. Its funny..we can afford to give these people welfare and free food and health care, yet they have guns and resort to violence and killing as a way to give back to what once was a respectable Canada. Is this Canada or The USA... I wonder
Google: "Gun violence is opening up racial divide" There's an interesting comment about the media generally agreeing to not mention the race of the (alleged) criminal to " to avoid harming ethnic communities and fueling racism." The Canadian government also does not allow the publishing of crime statistics by race due to Canada being a nation built on Ecclesiastes 10:2.

WAKE UP!! your on drugs if you think TO is even remotely safer than Calgary or Edmonton as it's FACT that TO and Montreal are Canada's kings of crime of every type. The population of black people as you called them in Canada is 3.15%, hardly enough to make the criminal impact they currently do.
Not to mention the top 40 most violant nations on Earth are all run by blacks with homocide rates higher than car crashes. There are some good ones granted but too far and few of them.

Malcolm, if you're not capable of making a mature statement on a serious situation such as this, then I suggest you keep your mouth closed and grow up! What's the matter? Do you have a problem with women being on the force?? Get a life.

Wow! now Toronto ALONE is more dangerous than Mexico is as a whole country to Canadians. Glad I live in a rural area on 2 sections of land. Not some rat infested, death trap city like Toronto or Vancouver were crime runs high and even the police are doing homocides. Safety in Canada is GONE with bikers, gangs and police creating extremely high violant numbers of crime, envoking fear of everyone envolved from police to criminals. It's tuff to trust even the police with their criminal record

is an idiot. he shoulbd be roasted in helll. i however disagree that blacks cause most crime in canada. calgary/edmonton are more dangerous than toronto but blacks form only 2% of tha pop of these cities. toronto's pop is 8-10% black. i'd expect HIGHER crime rate THAN THATof edmonton. crime is caused by greed and not poverty. i wish the criminals are caught be killed or sent to antarctica for research on global warmin. to all the racist bumheads here, 90% OF ALL BLACKS ARE LAW ABIDING

Yes, I think we can all agree that blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime. There are also many super-nice black people and it is unfortunate that they get painted with the same stereotype. But the black community as a whole has to admit they have a problem. I think a big part of the black problem is the Caribbean "Baby-Daddy" mentality and absentee fathers. What's the most confusing day in Jamaica? Fathers Day.

If the blacks were criminals or known to police, they probably were driving a stolen SUV and lived a lifestyle where such an end was possible, if not deserved. These guys were innocent whites - killed by a savage black. In Brampton, a huge story resulted because two innocent Afhgan immigrants were killed by a savage black - because there were innocent. We have sympathy for law abiding innocent victims. Too bad most black victims are criminals themselves .

Also...EVERY major case of multi-HIV infections caused by a man has been a BLACK AFRICAN. One was a CFL player in BC. Recently a sudanese man infected 45 women in Winnipeg and Brandon. A black man did the same in norway, another 2 in sweden, another in finland, several in australia, several in the USA. BLACKS commit sexual crimes ALL out of proportion. Here is the key stat though. How many blacks in Toronto have been murdered by non-blacks in the last 5 yrs. I believe ZERO!!!!

Actually...child molesters and sexual abuse is disproportionately committed by blacks as well...it's just not as stark a difference. Remember...whites are 85% of Canada...and less than 2 decades ago were 95% of the population. Sexual crimes/abuse also, unlike murders, need to be reported - and people in the black community rarely report crimes where they were victimized. Majority of serial killers in the US recently are also now black! Remember the Beltway sniper case...

Since too many people here are idiots. I will make it clear: 1) Correct to say that most (even the majority of gun crimes in Metropolitan areas) are commited by black people. Often gang associated. No need to argue. 2) Most (majority) serial killers are white. 3) Most (majority) pedophiles are white. 4) Most (majority) of sexual abuse is done by whites. 4) So if you think all blacks are criminals than don't leave your kids with any white folks.

It is ashame what happened to these two young men and there family's. Voilence like this touches all people who knew them. There is nothing in the article that states it was because they were white, also no mention on whom the shooter or shooters are they are looking for a black male on bike, has anyone thought that maybe he is a witness? There is no rythem or reason when it comes to robbery and certainly no black or white line.

UNBELIEVEABLE!!! CRIME IN TORONTO IS OUT OF CONTROL,THE DESCRIPTION OF THE ASSAILANT MATCHES UNFORTUNATELY WHAT EVERYONE KNOWS YET IS AFRAID TO SAYFOR FEAR OF BEING BRANDED A BIGOT, OR RACIST.THE POLICE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO THEIR JOB AND TREAT THESE PEOPLE AS THEY DO ANYONE ELSE IN SOCIETY WITHOUT FEAR OF DISCRIMATORY CHARGES BEING LAID AGAINST THEM. CRIME STATS PROVE WHO ARE TO WATCHED AND IT IS SAD THAT WE UNFORTUNATELY BRAND OR LUMP ALL BLACK PEOPLE INTO THIS CATEGORY BUT ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

Maybe they were necking in the front of the car and the black guy with the gun was a homophobe. So HATE was the motive. It could never be a carjacking as one stupid cop suggested, no one would riddle a car with bullet holes if they were gonna try and sell it. It seems that most of the gun crime IS done by blacks though, and it's not racist to state this statistical fact. (Whether it's perpetrated against whites or blacks it's usually a black finger pulling the trigger)

hope that they catch the people who did it. These guys didnt deserve to die. What's messed up is the fact that anytime there's a shooting the racists come out; never mind the disgusting crimes done by whites. I just think a lot of people in Canada are closet KKK members. But I hope they get they get the idiots who did this. The should get hanged by their instestines.

Everyday that I wake up, I read something so sickening in the news that it makes me want to puke. My condolences to this family , it is sad when adult can't be out in there high end vehicle because they may be targeted for theft and lose their lives to someone to lazy to get a job and go buy their own vehicle. I hope they catch who ever did this and punish them accordingly.

yeah i would call it racism when a black attacks white, most definently. and yes CANADA was a racist country why do you think we do not have as many blacks as the usa. because we paid doctors to say they had T.B. when they tried to cross the border when slavery was abolished in the usa. and yes look it up you can try pierre burton if you cant find it elsewhere.

Ok Chaudhary...lets look at crimes this year. All 25 gun related murders - committed by blacks. Of the 17-18 or so black victims - all except one (an older man killed by his step-daughters girlfriend) were known by police for criminal activity. Not one of the non-black victims was known by police, other than maybe a lost passport or speeding ticket. If you think it's racist here,go back to Pakistan or Bangladesh or wherever your parents were from - they sure have great human right there.
Oh wow, we never have this kind of uproar in Toronto when poor innocent black people are killed. At least these two boys lived a privileged happy life. I'd rather save my sympathies for the less privileged innocent victims. Notice how the cops emphatically state these men weren't known to them at all? Why don't they give the same consideration to most of the colored victims who are at least just as innocent? Plain and simple, it's racism.

Well when I first started to read the story it looks like the police killed these two men. By the time you get to the end it is not quite clear, but it sounds like they were killed by someone who may have been trying to steel thier vehicle? Is that correct?

and to aretee..the murders in france and england are disproportionately black...and black crime is rising in ITaly (where that brit student was raped and killed recently), Germany and everywhere else. It's a MATTER OF PROPORTION. P.S. In some countries with very few blacks, of course most violent crime is committed by non-blacks...but the murder levels are still VERY LOW. I'm sure the crime rate in those countries you mentioned is still pitiful compared to black infested areas.

European arguement just used to illustrate the point the disinfrachised groups resort to criminal means to get economic gain...whether they are black or white. The problems at their core are the same, just different poplulations experiencing them. Now as to solutions?????? Got me there. I think some of these education initiatives will be helpful, but they are not THE SOLUTION...they are part of what may eventually lead to a solution.

Japanese internment was a travesty and poverty of other groups did not make them criminal...all true. But...Economics due have an impact on where you live and who you eventually associate with... This is part of the problem. If you can be somewhere that negative influences of this sort don't exist then you have a much better chance of setting out in a different direction in life. Exposure to violence and lack of other modelling is an issue for this population. Not an excuse but a fact.

so then we should have japanese-centric education, then? i mean we interned them in camps, for god's sake! please don't bring up a european argument, because i'm talking about toronto. and to mention the jamaican problem is not to taint all of them. you must know that i wasn't extrapolating. but we have to get our heads out of the sand. economic status? lots of poor immigrant families (read: families) make do. we agree on some points. i have to jet...peace.

Agree with you Steven...no such thing as a carjacking gone right. Crime committed by youth, including black youth is out of control. Family structure is most likely a huge factor in this as is economic status and thus education levels of the families. I don't buy into afro-cenric school programs abolishing the problem, but it can be a useful tool to make these children feel that they are not alone in their differences and help them integrate in new ways. It is a good tool if used properly.

Steven...They brought it to the street??? That sounds like something from a Godfather movie. Oh sorry now I am targetting Italians because of the behaviour of some of their fellow countrymen. When they brought it to the streets with intimidation and shootings. Right, that was in the US...not in Canada...no white folk ever used a gun here for robbery! Just spent time in Europe...all the gun point carjackings there are being done by Eastern Europeans...white! Must be the Jamaican influence.

Steven...I didn't miss the point. I just don't agree that in this instance a case has been made to say that it was a black person(s) who did it. There is a lot of crime, by blacks, using guns...no question...but jumping to conclusions does not make it a fact in this case. When people make all encompassing statements about a population it is wrong. Not every Jamaican is a criminal. There are problems with some from that background but don't taint everyone because of them.
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